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Cat Context 90: The Force Awakens Spoilercast

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NOTE: As indicated in the title, this episode contains spoilers for The Force Awakens. ALL OF THE SPOILERS. Listen at your peril!

This week Ellyndrial, Arolaide, and return guest Corr get real space nerdy about The Force Awakens.

Topics discussed include:

  • Kylo Ren: yes or no?
  • Why can’t anyone in the galaxy read a space map properly?
  • Corr hates everything, even really fun things!
  • Are there any redeeming characteristics of the prequels? (Aro tries to argue yes.)
  • Star Wars music can be super cool, but not always!
  • Episode 8 speculation

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19 Comments

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    rowan
    January 16, 2016 at 2:19 pm

    Great podcast, folks. Too bad we didn’t get Liore’s completely disinterested take on the whole Star Wars phenomenon. I did have one nitpick, and I see it all over the place. You frequently dismissed EU-based speculation and then still made assumptions based on the EU that aren’t supported by the actual movies when postulating. Two examples: The assumption that only Force Users are capable of using Lightsabers, when the movies only indicate that force users choose use such weapons. (A parallel would be samurai in the gunpowder era.) The second is that a British (or at least non-American) accent indicates Imperial affiliation or heritage. There were several examples of Americans playing roles in the Empire; notably, the admiral whom Vader force chokes in the council room scene in ANH and various stormtroopers. Conversely, plenty of British actors can be heard amongst the Rebel Alliance: Mon Mothma, leader of the Alliance, and especially Obi-wan Kenobi (granted that he is not technically part of the Alliance). In an interview on Graham Norton’s show — https://youtu.be/XBsEuUZcosw — John Boyega reveales that his American accent in TFA is simply a result of his Peckham accent sounding odd, and J.J. asking him to do it differently. The video also includes a bit from Carrie Fisher about her varying accent in ANH. Thanks again for a great show.
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      Corr
      January 16, 2016 at 3:19 pm

      Thanks for listening! Check out Aro’s response below for most of what I would say with the only additional note re: Imperial accent. I think I said it on this episode (although honestly, it may have been on another) that Coruscant/Imperial accents are often used interchangeably when you can be one without the other.

      Cheers!

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    Aro
    January 16, 2016 at 2:50 pm

    One of the things we specifically said was that anyone CAN use a saber, it’s just dangerous to do so without training, and it’s not possible to CONSTRUCT one without the force. One of Corr’s points is that in the EU some Jedi constructed their sabers with force triggers so as to limit exactly that, but that Anakin Saber Mk 1 wasn’t one of those.

    WRT accents, it’s nebulous right now what’s EU and what’s Legends or totally out of canon. It’s a major plot point in SWTOR that a Republic NPC with an “Imperial” accent is in fact an Imperial defector and the accent is a specific comment. TFA Visual Dictionary, which is absolutely canon, makes some oblique references to Revan and events of KOTOR, soooo I still maintain my theory is valid, because Old Republic-era stuff hasn’t been explicitly contradicted and in some places is directly supported.
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      rowan
      January 16, 2016 at 3:46 pm

      Hah, quick responses, awesome. Despite references to Revan in TFA VD, I would hesitate to hang the rest of SWTOR on it. I am fully aware of Elara Dorne’s accent (LOVE it) and back story. But that does not necessarily hold true 4,000 years later, much as I wish the Clone Wars backdrop of Anakin’s fall had involved an Empire external to the Republic. Is there something in the current canon (The Clone Wars, perhaps?) that specifically states *only* Force users can construct lightsabers, or is it just that it’s a rite of passage to build your own?
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        Corr
        January 17, 2016 at 6:18 pm

        Not that I can think of off hand in current canon where it’s required. I think in the RoTJ novel Luke users the force to align the imperfections out of his crystal’s focusing path. Certainly there were many references in the old EU – Corran building his in “I, Jedi” comes to min – where use of the force to correctly align focusing crystal or whatnot is required.

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    Wilhelm Arcturus
    January 17, 2016 at 9:28 am

    Would it be impolite to say, “Best episode ever!” on Liore’s blog for an episode in which she does not appear? Enjoyed some of the speculation about things outside of the movie, though I am still mildly annoyed that some items that I would consider necessary to the story were left on the cutting room floor.
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      Corr
      January 17, 2016 at 6:20 pm

      If by impolite you mean “best comment ever” then yes.

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      Muspel
      January 18, 2016 at 1:27 pm

      While this episode was great, it would have been improved 1000% if the video version had edited in clips of Liore rolling her eyes whenever the conversation got particularly nerdy.

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        Aro
        January 18, 2016 at 2:10 pm

        Wouldn’t that have been just pretty much constant eye-rolling? I mean the nerding got pretty intense.

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          Muspel
          January 18, 2016 at 3:22 pm

          Exactly!

          • Wilhelm Arcturus
            January 20, 2016 at 9:46 am

            I’m pretty sure somebody could work up a continuous loop GIF image of Liore rolling her eyes in a pained reaction to the sheer depth of nerding that was going down. Also, “nerding” because in English any noun can become a verb at need.
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          • rowan
            January 20, 2016 at 10:05 am

            Made even more awesome when you re-nouned the gerund “nerding.”
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          • Wilhelm Arcturus
            January 23, 2016 at 1:58 pm

            Indeed, I am nerding out over all of this nerding out.
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          • Jessica Cook
            January 25, 2016 at 11:01 am

            *rolls eyes*

          • Corr
            January 26, 2016 at 8:04 am

            ^ Look peeps! We did it!

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    Knifesedge
    January 18, 2016 at 1:59 am

    What a great episode! Also, I totally echo Aro;s opinion on Looper.

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      Muspel
      January 18, 2016 at 3:21 pm

      Exactly!

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        Muspel
        January 18, 2016 at 3:22 pm

        Oops, replied to the wrong comment.

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          Knifesedge
          January 18, 2016 at 11:04 pm

          I’m sure it still applies :)

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